Thursday, December 4, 2025

Who Is a Member and Diversity Jurisdiction?

 Who Is a Member and Diversity Jurisdiction?

            It is black letter law that for purposes of Federal diversity jurisdiction (28 U.S.C. § 1332) an LLC has the citizenship of each of its members. One implication of this role is that in a suit by an LLC against one of its members there will never be diversity jurisdiction; the plaintiff LLC and the defendant member will always share the latter’s citizenship. But who is a member?, that being a question addressed in a recent decision from Texas. Edge Communications Solutions, LLC v. Werthamer, 2025 WL 3298312 (E.D. Tx. Nov. 26, 2025).

            Edge filed suit in Texas state court against its former employees Heide Werthamer and Marima Willis alleging what appear to be garden variety claims of theft of business secrets and as to Werthamer breach of a noncompete. The defendants removed the action to Federal court, and this decision addressed Edge’s motion to remand to state court on the basis that in fact diversity was not present.

            For purpose of this discussion the status of Werthamer as a member of Edge was the crux question. There was no dispute that she had been a member, and if she remained a member there would be no diversity. Werthamer alleged that upon the end of her employment by Edge she ceased to be a member. Edge maintained she remained a member notwithstanding ceasing to be an employee.

            The Court looked to the Delaware LLC Act, pursuant to which Edge was organized, and particularly the provisions addressing termination of member status, writing:

A member of a Delaware LLC may only resign “at the time or upon the happening of events specified in a limited liability company agreement and in accordance with the limited liability company agreement.” 6 Del. C. § 18-603. “[U]nless a limited liability company agreement provides otherwise, a member may not resign from a limited liability company prior to the dissolution and winding up of the limited liability company.” Id. Other than resignation, an individual can cease to be a member of an LLC upon assignment of all of the member’s limited liability company interest. 6 Del. C. § 18-702(b)(3).  2025 WL 3298312, *6.

            On the basis that Werthamer (she bearing the burden of showing diversity to exist) had not shown either on assignment of her interest in Edge or that her membership had been otherwise terminated, combined with the fact that Edge alleged she remained a member, the court found diversity to be lacking. Further, and building upon the fact that Werthamer bore the burden, it was noted by the court she could have as a member of Edge sought its membership list and avoided “any confusion.” 6 Del. Code § 18-305. For myself I’m a bit confused by this part of the opinion; Werthamer’s claim was that she is not a member and attempting to assert a member’s right would be antithetical to her petition. Still, if the LLC had responded with “you are not a member” it would have supported her position. In contrast if Edge had produced its list of members including Werthamer the situation would have been more clear.

            The decision is otherwise a useful primer on how to carry burden of showing diversity via proving the citizenship of the parties and their constituents.


Sunday, November 23, 2025

Member Not Removed Prior to Death

                                                    Member Not Removed Prior to Death

A recent decision from Illinois considered whether an individual was disassociated from an LLC by the actions of his parents or in contrast he remained a member through his death to the effect his estate became his assignee? It was the latter. Haohlbaugh v. Hohlbaugh, 2025 IL App (5th) 240826-U (Oct. 2, 2025).

KBK, LLC was organized in Illinois in 2001 by Ken and Babara, husband and wife, and their son Kevin; all were names as members in the filed articles. In 2003 Ken filed with the Illinois Secretary of State an amendment to the article deleting Kevin from the listing of members. Still, Ken and Barbara directed that KBK make certain payments to Kevin through his death in 2020. The backstory is that this suit was brought by Kevin’s widow, she’s asserting the estate held a one-third economic interest in KBKB while Kevin’s parents asserted he had no interest to be transferred to his estate.

As explained by the court:

Ken testified that he and Barbara thought it was prudent to remove Kevin as a member of the company because Kevin and his wife were separated, and Kevin was not paying his bills. Ken admitted his intent in filing the amendment to KBK’s articles of organization was to take away Kevin’s ownership share in KBK. Ken also admitted saying that “he put [Kevin] in, so I can take him out.” Ken thought that a majority of the members of a limited liability company could vote to remove another member. Ken testified that “the majority” removed Kevin. Ken believed that the filing of the articles of amendment made the dissociation valid. Ken also acknowledged that the members of KBK did not enter into a written operating agreement.  2025 Il. App. (5th) 240826-U, ¶ 12.

Rejecting that assertion and reversing the trial court, the Court of Appeals wrote:

At the time of these events, the consent of all members of a member-managed company was required for an amendment to the company’s articles of organization. There is no evidence that all three members of KBK consented to the amendment of the articles of organization as required in the Act. Ken testified that he and Barbara agreed that Kevin should withdraw as a member, and that a majority agreed to the amendment. Ken also acknowledged saying that he made Kevin a member of KBK and that he could remove Kevin from membership. Barbara did not testify. Therefore, the evidence indicates that only two of three members agreed to amend the articles of organization. 

The circuit court, however, determined that in the absence of terms for disassociating in an operating agreement, a member could be disassociated by majority vote of the other members. This determination is at odds with the provisions in section 35-45 of the Act. The circuit court departed from the plain language of the Act by reading into it an exception or new event resulting in dissociation that was not included in the text of the statute, and this was error. In addition, the circuit court’s concern that the members of a company would be “unable to break the LLC relationship until one member dies” is unfounded. Under the Act, members of a limited liability company have options for the dissociation of a member or dissolution of the company. For example, under specified circumstances, the company or a member could file an application for another member’s expulsion by judicial determination. A member could also be expelled by unanimous vote of the other members under specified circumstances. And, a member could apply for a decree of judicial dissolution of the company. Finally, the members could have opted to enter into an operating agreement to regulate the affairs and conduct of the company and to govern the relationships among the members. 

Given the failure of the members of KBK to comply with the statutory provisions governing amendments to the article of organization and the statutory provisions governing dissociation, the filing of the articles of amendment in June 2003 did not effectuate the dissociation of Kevin as a member of KBK. In keeping with the provisions of section 35-45, which are controlling, Kevin was dissociated from KBK on his death in April 2020, and not before. Id. ¶¶ 36-38 (citation omitted)

The lesson is clear; if you want a right to expel a member, and it is not clear that the underlying state law creates that right, you need to put it into a written operating agreement. 

Saturday, November 8, 2025

Ohio Court Allows Issuance of Charging Orders Notwithstanding Uncertainty

                Ohio Court Allows Issuance of Charging Orders Notwithstanding Uncertainty

A recent admission from a Federal district court sitting in Ohio applying that states LLC Act found that changing orders could be issued not withstanding questions as to whether they would be ultimately effective. JobsOhio v. Emkey Energy, LLC2025 WL 2780920 (S.D. Ohio Sept. 30, 2025).

A company named RH energytrans, LLC borrowed $4 million from JobsOhio to complete a natural gas pipeline; EmKey Gathering LLC delivered in connection therewith a guarantee. Later EmKey Energy LLC assumed the loan agreement. Further, in connection with that assumption Risberg, EmKey Energy’s CEO, delivered another guarantee. After a short-term payment deferral during the Covid-19 pandemic payments did not resume, and JobsOhio accelerated the loan and filed suit to collect. Ultimately an agreed judgement was entered against EmKey Energy and EmKey Gathering for just less than $5 million. The next day JobsOhio sought the first of the charging orders that are the subject of this decision.

The first charging order sought to lien any distributions from either EmKey Gathering, LLC or EmKey Gas Processing, LLC to EmKey Energy. There was then sought another charging order as to EmKey Gathering’s interest in CGE Venture, LLC. There was as well a garnishment that is not otherwise the subject of this decision.

As to the charging orders addressed to EmKey Gathering and EmKey Processing, EmKey Energy asserted that its interest in Gathering had already been assigned to a prior lender and that processing assets were encumbered to the effect that neither would be making distribution to Energy that could be subject to the charging order. Rejecting that argument as to EmKey’sinterest in Gathering, the Court wrote:

EmKey Energy suggests that no charging order can be issued against its membership interest in EmKey Gathering because this equity interest was pledged in 2011 to Amegy—and then later transferred from Amegy to Hallan—such that Hallan has been assigned the entirety of EmKey Energy’s membership interest in EmKey Gathering as part of consideration for loans.…. Even if EmKey Energy is not poised to receive immediate distributions from EmKey Gathering, Plaintiff is entitled to a charging order. That is because “[t]he priority of the charging order lien vis-à-vis other creditor claims against the judgment debtor is a matter governed by other law.” 1 Ribstein and Keatinge on Ltd. Liab. Cos. § 10:32 (June 2025 Update) (emphasis added). Courts issuing charging orders need not determine the “priority” of the order “over the judgment debtor’s other creditors orlienholders,” because “a hypothetical priority dispute in the future is not sufficient reason to prohibit the Court from entering such an order.” 2025 WL 2780920, *3.

As to the Processing charging order:

Next, EmKey Energy concedes that it “still retains its membership interest in EmKey Processing,” but argues that its “membership interest is of little value” in light of “prior and superior liens” on EmKey Processing’s assets, and the fact that EmKey Processing has never operated at a profit or had a distribution to EmKey Energy. (ECF No. 33 at 5). This argument is irrelevant. As previously noted, the existence of other liens does not invalidate a requested charging order. 1 Ribstein and Keatinge on Ltd. Liab. Cos. § 10:32 (June 2025 Update)2025 WL 2780920, *4.

Turning to EmKey Gathering’s interest in CGE Venturo, it was again argued that no charging order may be issued when the interest has been assigned and, you guessed it, the Court said it did not matter:

This Court need not determine the nature of the purported assignment of EmKey Gathering’s membership interest at this juncture, as it agrees with Plaintiff that even if EmKey Gathering’s membership interest was assigned, such an assignment would not bar a charging order…. 2025 WL 2780920, *5.

I will just add that in addition to two citations to my favorite LLC treatise, this is a solid opinion; the challenges by so many judgment-debtors to the issuance of charging orders as to LLCs and other unincorporated associations in which they have an interest on the basis of “there is no value there” are and should be self-defeating.  If there is no value there why are you spending time and energy seeking to avoid the charging order?  The lady doesth protest too greatly?

Wednesday, October 29, 2025

Expulsion for “Unlawful” Conduct

                                                        Expulsion For “Unlawful” Conduct

Many LLC Acts provide that a member may be expelled by the other members on either a majority or a unanimous vote, when it is “unlawful” to proceed with them as a member.  Those statutes are collected in Ribstein and Keatinge on Limited Liability Companiesappendix 14-3. A provision of this nature was recently considered in Montana, and in a manner I found curious.

Hebert v. Shield Arms, LLC, 2025 MT 199, 576 P.3d 327, 334, reh'g denied (Oct. 7, 2025) involved an LLC with a federal firearms license.  One of the members, Hebert, began exhibitinglets just say curious conduct that impacted upon both the internal operations of the LLC and its customer relationships.  On the basis of a statute that permitted the expulsion of a member by the unanimous vote of the other members when it is “unlawful” to continue with that person as a member, that vote was take and Hebert expelled.  He then objected that the predicate “unlawful” was in fact not present. 

The trial court and a majority of the appellate court found that Herbert’s erratic conduct, if not addressed by the other members, would implicate a failure to discharge their obligations of care and loyalty to the LLC.

Here, there are express provisions of law that would be violated if the other members were to carry on with Hebert as a member: they would violate their own fiduciary duties of care and loyalty required of them by § 35-8-310, MCA. Specifically, the duty of care requires a member “to refrain[ ] from engaging in grossly negligent or reckless conduct.” Section 35-8-310(3), MCA. Given Hebert’s actions, it would be at least reckless, if not grossly negligent, to allow him to continue as a member. To permit Hebert to continue governing the company would result in all of the other members expressly violating their fiduciary duties in contravention of express legal provisions.

In addition to finding a violation of general standards for a member’s conduct set forth in § 35-8-310, MCA, the District Court found that Hebert’s baseless claims against Brandly and interference with SA’s business relationships constituted slander and tortious interference, in violation of express provisions of the law. The court observed that Hebert’s actions could be imputed to SA pursuant to § 35-8-306, MCA (A company is “liable for loss or injury caused to a person, or for a penalty incurred, as a result of a wrongful act or omission or other actionable conduct of a member or manager acting in the ordinary course of business of the company or with the authority of the company.”). ¶¶ 23-24.

Further, not effecting his expulsion could have exposed the LLC to a suit from its employee, a target of his conduct. 

Finally, SA’s only employee, Hauss, observed Hebert taking company inventory from the facility without notice, verbally communicating ideas outside company protocol, and having strong emotional outbursts that vacillated from yelling to laughing to sadness within hours. Other members observed that Hebert’s behavior appeared detached from reality. Thus, the District Court concluded Hebert’s conduct not only interfered with SA’s business and was tortious, but the court also concluded Hebert created a hostile work environment for SA’s employee—exposing it to liability. ¶ 24.

A dissent by three justices took issue with that applicationof the statute and the melding of the terms for expulsion by the members versus in a judicial actionwould have imposed a significantly narrower definition of “unlawful,” and would have set aside the expulsion at issue.

There was additional guidance in the decision as to enforcing a contractually agreed to valuation and the “going concern valuation” in a forced buy-out situation.

In the view of this commentator the dissent has the better reasoning, and the “unlawful” element relied upon by the company and both the trial court and the Montana Supreme Court was stretched beyond recognition.  I have always understood the “unlawful” prerequisite to involve express statutory law governing the organization.  Assume a bar/restaurant with a liquor license; under applicable state law an LLC with a liquor license may not have a person with a DUI conviction.  Upon member Tim’s conviction of DUI he needs to be expelled as the LLC cannot operate lawfully with a member who has a DUI on his/her record.  Now change the facts slightly and assume that state law provides that the LLC with a liquor license may not have as a member a person with two or more DUIs.  Tim’s first and only DUI conviction does not make it unlawful for the LLC to operate, and while the other members may be morally offended that Tim has a DUI and has put the company’s reputation on the line there is no predicate “unlawful” conduct justifying expulsion. Now the operating agreement could have said that although state law allows a DUI before the LLC’s liquor license is in peril, a single DUI is a legitimate basis for expulsion, but then Tim would be expelled for his single DUI under the terms of the operating agreement and not because his conduct was “unlawful.” 

Alabama Court Addresses Venue for Actions Against LLC

Alabama Court Addresses Venue for Actions Against LLC

Alabama has three statutes addressing venue; one for individuals, one for unincorporated associations, and one for corporations.  In a recent decision from the Alabama Supreme Court it considered which of these statutes applies in a suit involving an LLC.  Ex parte Rivers, 2025 WL 2739216 (Ala. Sept. 26, 2025).

This decision required the Court to parse the various venue statutes to determine which of the three would apply to a suit against an LLC, the options being the venue statute for suits against individuals, suits against unincorporated associations, and suits against corporations.  After reviewing the history of the statutes, it was determined that the corporate venue statute would apply as to suits against LLCs.  The venue statute for unincorporated associations was held not applicable because at the time of its adoption that class was for partnerships and other organizations without a distinct legal personality, a taxonomy inapplicable to LLCs. On the other hand LLCs are legal entities legally distinct from their members, just as corporations are distinct from their shareholders, so the corporate venue statute is the better fit.

The Operating Agreement Is the Thing, Or "Except As Otherwise Provided"

                                                   The Operating Agreement Is the Thing,

                                                      or “Except as Otherwise Provided”


A decision from earlier this year applied the rule that the LLC act is largely a series of default rules that may as to any particular LLC be modified in the applicable operating agreement. In this case the sanction of certain conduct by a written operating agreement was held to have limited the possibility of a fiduciary breach for engaging in just that conduct. Svestka v. Oakes, 2025 WL 1415813 (Ky. App. May 16, 2025).

Sisters Ruth Svestka, Carolyn Steger, Marguarite Oakes and Mary Cherry were each 25% members in Vance Springs Farm, LLC, it organized in Kentucky. Vance Springs was manager-managed and governed by a written operating agreement. Pursuant to that agreement Marguerite was the LLC's manager. The agreement also (i) provided a right of first refusal in the case of a member wanted to sell her interest in the company and (ii) provided that the ROFR did not apply as to a purchase / sale among the four members.

In June, 2022, Margaurite purchased Mary Cherry’s 25% interest in Vance Spring,  Thereafter Ruth and Carolyn called a special meeting of the members to assess whether Margaurite should be removed as the LLC’s manager, removal requiring “cause.”  The operating agreement precluded the member-manager from participation on a vote as to her removal as manager, so Ruth and Carolyn held between themselves 100% of the voting rights as to whether or not Margaurite should be removed for cause.  And she was.

FYI, a point not addressed in the opinion was whether Margaurite believed that in buying Mary Cherry’s 25% interest she as well succeeded to that 25% voting interest. Ruth and Carolyn seem to have believed that to be the case, but the point was not pursued.

In response to her removal Margaurite and Mary filed an action for a declaration of rights including that the purchase / sale of Mary Cherry’s interest in Vance Farms was valid and that Marguarite’s alleged removal as manager was invalid.  In their answer Ruth and Carlyn asserted Margaurite, in purchasing Mary’s interest in the LLC, had violated her fiduciary obligations.  Marguarite and Mary sought and received from the circuit court a temporary injunction reinstating Margaurite to the position of manager.  While that matter was being appealed on an interlocutory basis Marguarite bought out the interests of Ruth and Carolyn pursuant to the ROFR when they sought to sell to a third party. There then followed additional motion practice and final judgments in favor of Marguarite.

On appeal, the first complaint was that the trial court should not have relied upon the terms of the LLC's operating agreement to determine the scope of Marguerite's fiduciary duties, it being asserted that doing so “improperly ignored KRS 275.170 and the common law.” As further characterized by the Court of Appeals:

appellants maintained that Marguerites June 4, 2022, ”purchase of Mary’s shares created a clear conflict of interest because it gave Marguerite a 50% ownership interest in the LLC. They argue this would effectively allow Marguerite to deadlock the LLC's strategic business operations, as well as some day-to-day operations. …. They argue that this imbalance of power would have been avoided if the Circuit Court had properly applied the statutory law and case law to determine the proper scope of Marguerite's fiduciary duties to Ruth and Carolyn. 2025 WL 1415813, *3.  

The Court of Appeals, adopting the reasoning of a prior motions panel and its reliance upon KRS 275.170 and its provision “unless otherwise provided in a written operating agreement,” wrote that:

Marguerite cannot breach fiduciary duties by completing a purchase that the parties specifically contemplated in their Operating Agreement. Common law fiduciary duties are intended to be imposed “in the absence of contrary provisions in the limited liability company operating agreement”, Patman v Hobbs, 280 S.W.3d 589, 594 (Ky. App. 2009 ). 2025 WL 1415813, *5.

I would note in passing that this author disagrees that there are “common law” fiduciary duties in LLCs, they being a statutory construct, but that is a discussion for another day. 

The opinion goes on to reject the notion that Marguarite’s purchase violated “her duties of loyalty, fair dealing, and good faith when she purchased Mary Cherry’s interest in the LLC without first notifying  the other members to give them the opportunity to purchase the shares.”   2025 WL 1415813, *6.  As to that argument I would note only that it is common to in ROFR agreements provide that the persons desiring to purchase may do so pari-passu; apparently this agreement did not, and that “good faith and fair dealing” (see KRS 275.003) will not create such a provision.

That said, I think there is a further step to consider as to these facts, namely whether in the absence of the ROFR here at issue Margaurite’s actions in acquiring for herself Mary’s 25% interest in Vance Springs would have been a legitimate.  Lets assume an operating agreement that is silent as to transfers of LLC interests, that LLC owned by four equal 25% members.  Those LLC interests are personal property, and there is nothing in the LLC Act that prohibits the unilateral transfer of those right whether to another member or to a third party.  Yes, the LLC Act affirmatively strips the conveyed interests of the right to participate in the LLC’s management (i.e., an assignee does not by reason of the assignment succeed to the management rights of a member), but that goes to the nature of the LLC interests in the hands of the assignee and not the propriety of the purchase / sale transaction.  

At that point, the question becomes whether a member has an obligation to share with the other members an opportunity to acquire outstanding LLC interest from a member who wants to sell. Another way to look at the question is to ask whether a member has a fiduciary obligation to at least afford the other members the opportunity to maintain a particular pari pasu interest in the company. For purposes of this thought experiment, let’s assume the LLC is member managed and that each of the members is bound by the default fiduciary obligations set forth in the LLC Act, specifically KRS 275.170, and that their conduct is as well informed by the obligation of good faith and fair dealing that exist in every contract and which is specifically adopted in Kentucky law at KRS 275.003.


On those assumptions, I don’t believe there is an obligation. While a member of an LLC subject to the default fiduciary obligations of the LLC Act is precluded, without disinterested prior approval, from using company assets for a personal profit or benefit, the LLC interests in the company are not company assets. Rather, they are the personal property of each individual member. I cannot see a basis on which an individual member, desiring to sell, has an obligation to offer that sale to all other, rather than a select group, of the incumbent members, and in parallel I cannot see a basis for holding that a member violates a fiduciary or other obligation when electing to purchase from another member LLC interests for their own account without offering an equal right to participate to the other members. Again, the LLC interests are not a company asset, and the company is not a party to the transaction.

Tuesday, October 28, 2025

Happy Birthday Erasmus

 Happy Birthday Erasmus

    Today we remember the birth of the man who came to be known as Erasmus of Rotterdam, sometimes Desiderius Erasmus Roterodamus, he entering the world on October 28 (that is pretty certain) likely in 1466 (the year of his birth is somewhat in dispute).  This is the 559th anniversary of that day

    I’ll be adding more later, but for now let me note that in the early 1500’s some ten to twenty percent of all books published and read were his works.  


(More to follow)